Notes on hfcyclists meeting, Tuesday 1 October, 7.30pm in the info centre
Present: John Griffiths, Louanne Tranchel, John Ryan, Bill Ogden, Paul Alexander,
Apologies: Gesine, Pat Tookey, Jane Knight, Sarah Shubinsky, Edison, Chris Tranchel, Mark Alderton, Simon Franklin, Alex Forrest, Chris Bainbridge, Charlie Boyle, Gavin Donovan, Roger de Freitas
1 European Car Free Day aka
Perhaps a low awareness of the event, both before and after. Next year decide earlier on a venue and get more commitment from the Tsars in the Council. [Louanne pointed out that it took several years to get the Council fully behind Black History week.] Next year car free day (22 September) will fall on a Monday. Suggested doing it on the Sunday. Paul suggested slow cycle race, pulse rate cycling machine, cycling simulator with screen in front of you as possible attractions next year.
Most of the discussion concerned
the follow up to see if Mulgrave rd could be closed.
Louanne suggested traffic modelling to see what the knock on effects would be.
To follow up Councillors and all avenues should be pursued. [who by? NDC? CFD organising committee? us?]
It was very good that several people from our group were involved on the day. It is disappointing that so few were involved in promoting hfcyclists as a group. Only john g, Sarah and Edison. We must make ourselves more participating and displayable. As a group we attracted 13 new people to our email group, gave out cycle maps and chatted to people and gave out sustenance to those around.
As an organisation the Friends of the Earth stall next to us really had it together.
2 The community and voluntary
3 Accident figures.
They comprise over 300 pages of computer generated text. John g is extracting the cycle figures to make them more accessible.
4 Hammersmith Gyratory.
b) Councillor Charlie Boyle is interested in the Council's commitment to making the Broadway safe. He would like to see road space or under-used pedestrian space given over to make cycling safer. He spoke at length to the cycling officer Simon Franklin on the afternoon of our meeting. Charlie hoped to make it to our meeting but was delayed.
b) It is possible that the plans may include a route that uses the pedestrian subway under Fulham Palace rd as a temporary link. Temporary for how long? Surface level crossings may not arrive in the immediate future. The arrangement may cause some conflicts. Pedal damage to pedestrians may be expected from any dismounted cyclists. And not everyone will dismount.
On the gyratory itself the only change may be to put in advanced stop lines. Without feeder lanes we are not sure what use they are. [Simon says that it will give a greater awareness of cyclists on the Broadway]
c) The Council is carrying out a survey around the Broadway. Why at this point when the plans are already drawn up? It is meant to show where people start and finish their journey and the purpose of that journey. As the money may be available for a Great West rd to Hammersmith rd route what will this survey show. The results will obviously depend on whereabouts on the Broadway the surveys were given out. It would appear that it could only be used for some post facto justification, and be of no use at all for any design considerations. Unless this is just the beginning rather than the end.
A better approach as a part of the design would be to observe carefully what happens at the various junctions and see what measures may be useful. And have commitment from above that something significant can be done to improve cycling safety.
d) Rumours abound on how the land at the NW corner of the Broadway island will be used. Will it be a bus station. If it is, it will be an opportunity for massive changes around the Broadway, and we must be sure that cycling has an adequate input.
e) Our suggestions for the Broadway, which were collected 18 months ago and may need revising, are at http://www.hfcyclists.org.uk/bwy.htm
5 Best Value Partnership.
"The protocol commits Hammersmith and Fulham Council to involving local community groups in fundamental reviews of council services ."
We made a list of councillors who cycle or who are thought to be cycle friendly. John g will try to get them all involved in improving things.
Simon Franklin spoke on the
phone to john g just before the meeting. He said he hoped we could soon
have a meeting with John Lee of TfL concerning the design of the SW corner
of Shepherds Bush Green. He also hoped that we could have some input into
the cycle routes across the Green that are now being looked at by the
architects Ian Ritchie. [so far cycling has been rather low Ian Ritchie's
[I think that the overall project management of the work at Shepherds Bush Green has been very poor. Many groups have been keen to be involved in making it a high class cycling feature. All momentum has been lost. There has been no meetings bringing together Holland Park roundabout people, TfL experts in land use, and many others. I do not know where or how high up the responsibility for this lack of enthusiasm and overall management lies.]
[Work at the SW corner of SBG has been held up for several months for signal considerations. Rockley rd junction may be done shortly say the people in highways]
6 Some expenses. john g had expenses for
£10 for 2 reams of paper
7 Louanne was pleased to see police and paramedics on cycles recently
8 Next meeting our AGM. Tuesday 5 November, 7.30pm at the info centre. Let us see whom and what skills we can muster to make ourselves a stronger, more widely based effective organisation. Please try to come along. Refreshments and sparklers provided.
[Note the LCC AGM is Saturday 2 November. If you are a LCC member please consider going along and meeting our more experienced counterparts from other regions]